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Best Phenibut Vendors

My trusted and extensively-researched ones. They’re the same as above, in an easy-to-compare format with extra information. Price column is based on the lowest size offering I could find.

Phenibut benefits and effects

• Helps you relax and may relieve anxious feelings
• May help occasional sleeplessness
• May help asthenia
• May support memory and attention
• May support reaction time and accuracy
• May support interest and motivation

The above is from Noofen leaflet on reddit’s r/phenibut sidebar (Scribd.com PDF)

Also reduces pain and apparently gives women great orgasms (NSFW).

A CNS Drug Review paper (here) says

• “PB was found to activate intellectual functions, improve physical strength, motivate activity, and to reduce tiredness (38).”
• Further states, “it has also been reported to enhance memory and intellectual function.”
• The paper then concludes, “On the basis of the above reviewed findings PB was classified as an atypical tranquilizer, or ‘day tranquilizer.’ It has antistress, thymoleptic (activating), and nootropic (cognition enhancing) components of action.”

What does being on it feel like?

I’ve never taken Benzos, but people who have say it feels like low dose Benzos without the whole “losing your motivation,” brain fog, or forgetfulness that comes with them.

Some say it feels like low dose MDMA (especially when they combined it with a tiny bit of caffeine).

BrainProTips.com’s Phenibut high article says “a moderate-to-large dose of phenibut feels like being drunk without the intoxication.” You get to feel the good parts of being drunk without the calories.

Here’s what others said it felt like:

That’s how Good Looking Loser describes it.

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Is it legal or unregulated?

United States (US): As of June 2018: Not regulated. Uncontrolled. Legal to possess. Not intended for human consumption. All that according to Erowid’s phenibut page.

United Kingdom (UK): Illegal to buy over-the-counter in the UK due to the Psychoactive Substances Act of 2016 passed on 28 January 2016 and came into effect on 26 May 2016.

I must caution you however: I’m not a lawyer, have no legal training, and can’t guarantee what I’ve stated is accurate because laws are complex, always in flux, and can differ from one country/state/county to another. You gotta do your own due diligence, as always.

Phenibut HCl vs Phenibut FAA

FAA is the pure “free-existing amino acid” version. 99.5% pure product with nothing else added. The HCl version is made by adding Hydrochloric acid to Phenibut FAA.

HCl:

• Most common form of it. Probably because it forms crystals fairly easily and less dense than the FAA form
• Doesn’t clump up as easily as FAA does.
• Acidic, so it you take it sublingually it can damage mucous membranes and erode enamel. That’s why I prefer the capsules
• Has better water solubility than FAA form

FAA:

• Has lower molecular weight than HCl form (and easier on the taste buds), allowing for faster sublingual absorption
• Because it’s closer to neutral pH, it’s less harsh on the teeth when taking it in powder form
• Fine powder. Less soluble in water than HCl form
• If same dosage as HCl, would last longer (due to lower molecular weight and being 99.5% Phenibut by weight compared to just 83% for HCl)
• The stomach converts it to the PB-HCl
• Can be used sublingually (even intranasally or rectally if that’s how you get down). This makes it faster-acting. [ref]

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Dangers, Side Effects, Warnings, and How to Store it

Warnings

–DO NOT use if pregnant or breastfeeding.

–DO NOT use with Alcohol, sedatives, opioids, other depressants, or any other things that affect GABA (like Benzodiazepines, Xanax, Valium, Klonopin, Baicalin, Barbiturates, GABA itself, Kava, Picamilon, Valerian, Magnolia Bark Extract, Baclofen, and many more.) Why? Because GABA and GABAergic comounds depress the Central Nervous system. Mixing them intensifies this effect too much and can cause respiratory depression (i.e. slow breathing and heart rate like an opioid overdose) that can be fatal.

–People who’ve used it with alcohol (don’t do that by the way) say that one shot feels like 2 and 3 drinks feel like 7. That’s a dangerous combo and you can black out sooner than you normally would (or black out even if you normally don’t). And if someone calls an ambulance for you…now you got medical debt because you’re footing the bill.

–DO NOT drive or use any machinery while on it

–Phenibut “prolongs and potentiates effects of hypnotics, narcotics, neuroleptics and anti-Parkinson drugs”

–If you have gastric and/or duodenal ulcers, consult your doctor

–Tolerance builds quick on this stuff.

–Anecdotally, it takes like 2-5 hours for it to really kick. So…DO NOT pull a “weed edible rookie” stunt by thinking it’s not working and then take too much… 1. because you’re not Joey “CoCo” Diaz and 2. you might end up with the groundhog as your mailman [aka dead].

–It’s easy to get addicted to and dependent on this stuff (just like drugs and alcohol) when misused.

BayesianBodybuilding.com notes “Addiction takes less than 10 days to develop [16,17]. A 5’10” (1.78m) adult weighing 176 lb (80kg) will develop a tolerance to using 1.2 grams of Phenibut a day [16].”

–Keeping your dose as low as possible helps avoid faster tolerance.

–Stopping cold turkey (especially if you have been taking too much or haven’t been taking it in the safe way I recommended) can result in some bad withdrawals. Withdrawal symptoms can be anything from depression, negative thoughts, panic attacks, and stuff like this or… Like this guy who was having withdrawal-like symptoms (panic attack and anxiety) return *months* after he quit using it after being addicted to it.

Safety:

• All studies point to insufficient research for long-term usage safety.
• According to the CNS Drug Review paper (linked above in the effects section), “The acute toxicity of PB is low. Its LD50 is 900mg/kg i.p. in mice and 700 mg/kg i.p. in rats.”
• Not much is known about phenibut toxicity in animals or humans, but it’s mostly excreted in the urine.

Estimated LD50 of Phenibut:

(barring any math errors on my part): If we take the rat LD50 [Lethal Dosage] of 700 mg/kg i.p., the Human equivalent dose (HED) would be 113.51 mg/kg for the LD50. Now, I’m NOT a scientist, doctor, or mathematician, so do your own calculations to be sure, but mine were based on the Reagan-Shaw preferred formula here

Based on your weight, your LD50 [aka the dose that could kill you] might be:
100 lbs. (45.35 kg): 5,124 mg
120 lbs. (54.43 kg): 6,150 mg
140 lbs. (63.50 kg): 7,175 mg
160 lbs. (72.57 kg): 8,200 mg
180 lbs. (81.64 kg): 9,225 mg
200 lbs. (90.71 kg): 10,250 mg
220 lbs. (99.79 kg): 11,276 mg
240 lbs. (108.86 kg): 12,301 mg

Crazy thing is, I’ve heard of people taking 10 grams and surviving, but don’t gamble with your life like that over some silly powder/pills.

Gains and “Potentially Addictive Dose Range” Calculator:

Using Bayesian Bodybuilding’s dose calculator here, you can estimate at what dose your addiction/tolerance would most likely start *and* pre-workout dosage! Read his article and you’ll see that phenibut could help you with those gains too.

Possible Side Effects

–Prolonged or extended use can cause hepatotoxicity (liver toxicity)

–Can cause sweating, gut issues, lethargy, dizziness, slightly impaired memory, nausea, and/or somnolence (aka sleepiness or drowsiness… especially if you overdose.). This is common with most GABA agonists [ref].

–Prolonged use can cause some awful withdrawal symptoms similar to alcoholic withdrawal. That’s why it’s not a good idea to use this stuff more than 2 times / week with 3-4 days in between uses. You’ll see this referred to as a “wash-out” period a lot online. For other terrible side effects and withdrawals, just google “horrible phenibut side effects” or check out the warning on reddit’s r/phenibut’s sidebar.

TL;DR = Don’t use this stuff if you’re on *ANY* kind of medication unless you’ve talked to your Doctor about it and he/she approved. Don’t use more than two times per week

Storage

–Store in a cool, dry place away from light or moisture. Store under 25 degrees Celsius (77 degrees F).

–Keep it away from children (Obvious I hope haha)

–Don’t use after the expiration date.

Best Doses

If using powder, buy a scale (NO exceptions!) that accurately measures to at least 0.01 of a gram. You don’t want to feel the wrath of too much.

from Latvian Manufacturer leaflet:

–For Asthenic, Anxious, or Neurotic states: 250 mg – 500 mg, 3 times daily.

Max single dose = 750 mg (If over 60 years old, 500 mg)

Anecdotal Dosages I Found:

–LiftMode.com blog recommends 250 mg – 350 mg 2-3 times per day for a lower dose for a calming effect. Their higher dose is 500 mg – 750 mg up to twice daily for less sleeplessness, along with the effects noticed at the smaller dosages. Their actual packaging however recommends taking “1-2 servings [300 mg = 1 serving] 1-2 times per day.”

–Good Looking Loser uses 2500 mg – 3000 mg (over the course of 24 hours I assume) about 2-3 times per month. But that’s a big boy dose, and you shouldn’t start there.

How to take it

Always consult your doctor before trying anything, especially if you take any medications.

It’s absorbed better on an empty stomach. Why? Well, since it’s acidic, an acidic environment will allow it to be better absorbed. That means, avoid taking it with food since eating decreases the stomach’s acidity for a bit.

HCl or FAA Powder:
–Hardcore: Weigh dose, mix in water, and drink with no chaser.
–Chaser: Same as above but chase with a sweet drink like apple juice or something to combat the bitterness.
–GLL Method: Same as hardcore except you mix to with green tea

Because the HCl version is very acidic, over time it may harm your teeth. Mixing it in water should buffer the acidity somewhat. Swish with a bit of extra water, or go for the pill version.

Pills/Capsules:
–Pop ’em, chase with water

With all of the above: be sure you always properly weigh the dose, take it on an empty stomach, and wait at least 3 hours before taking another dose and declaring it doesn’t work because if you have any tolerance to other GABAergics (like those mentioned in the Warning sub-section above), you probably won’t notice anything.

For a manufacturer’s recommendation on how to take it, again see here

Side note: I’d strongly recommend against snorting this stuff.

Conclusion

If you need something to help you calm your emotions and relax (Phenibut may support reducing feelings of social anxiousness), and support occasional sleeplessness, maybe it’s right for you.

But let me warn you, in the United States, Phenibut isn’t regulated so that’s why it can be sold legally…for now. Anything that works great, but has the potential for abuse/addiction, the government usually cracks down on it sooner rather than later (remember DMAA?).

So get you some

PS: If you want a more natural alternative, I really like Sensoril Ashwagandha. (I’ll link to my Ashwagandha stress post when I write. until then, see my Nootropics for anxiety and stress post on Ashwagandha)

PPS: Want to buy non-phenibut anti-anxiety nootropics? Here’s my list of the best nootropic vendors to get them